Does a bounty entail cheating? Does a bounty allow a team to gain an unfair advantage against their opponents? Just consider that when assessing what the Saints did. That being said, what makes this case different from the pots commonplace around the NFL is that it was funded by sources besides the players and led by an NFL coach. The Saints deserve to get penalized (at least tons of suspensions, fines, and lost draft picks) more heavily than the Patriots did after Spygate, but the offense in itself is, in my opinion, horrible for the NFL but less so than Spygate.

Thank You Stacy,

I couldn't have said that better. You sum up some very good points, especially about how to feel about the upcoming season. I think management shot itself in the foot with this fiasco, likely why they hired spin doctor Ari Fleischer to clean up their mess.

I hope Brett is happy and it shows when he plays, because its about how fun it is to watch him play. The Packers should have valued what he meant to fans more than the headache they portray with this retirement/commitment saga. I think there was more behind the scenes that we don't know about, like trying to get him to change the way he played to be a better game manager.

The ugliness won't go away soon. This will leave fans bitter and empty for years to come, knowing he wanted to come back to play, knowing we had one more title shot with him. I can't believe they threw that all away over this Hatfield and McCoy like feud. The Packers will likely further remove any Favre distraction by keeping their players away from the subject. To keep them focused on football, they'll remove anything that will remind them of 'ol number four. Like, tearing down the "Thanks For The Memories" banner in the Lambeau field atrium, for starters.

I think I need to go kick something real hard now! Thankfully, I don't have a dog.

But, what can you do. I'm sure some of the sting will be gone. And, getting to watch him play again will be a plus. I really hope he does well and makes the Packers regret the course they took to remove him from the team. And, I'm sure Brett would like that too, though he won't say it publicly. I'm proud of him for taking the high road, at least.

He's moving forward, too.

I don't know, such a small gift from such a child probably touched them, and I would think that they put the flowers in a vase.

I am not a big football fan, but I was aware of all the uproar going on. Hopefully things will heal and Favre will come back home.

Wonderful entry.

Thanks for the comment!

I was a member of the media in '97 when they gave out rings to players for their Super bowl win, but they excluded a few people who moved on. I was amazed at how the local press could be silenced by the organization into not reporting the fact that the team's field goal kicker Chris Jacke and a few others were excluded from the ring ceremony and not given rings because they went to play for some other teams. I felt helpless as a news assignment editor for a local TV station and could see how the Packer organization could hold the local media hostage.

It's a little different when ESPN or some big news network gets wind of something and decides to report it. Now, the Packers are just silent while Greta Van Susteren lets Favre hang everything out there. They might be working like crazy behind the scenes like telling sources, 'are you going to let a news woman scoop you guys who report sports for a living?' They won't be able to shut him (Favre) up like they can the local press and players of lesser stature who want to keep earning a paycheck.

Thanks again for reading and responding.

Brian

Well, better than cities with owners that hold the fans hostage unless they love to lick shoes or make the millionaires, multi-millionaires. Ah ... football and all major sports have far too much money and little common sense.

Congratulations on the new lifestyle and the weight loss. You are doing great.
And with the "court rage"; at least you recognize it....

Good luck with both.

hey I know you.. nice to see you here again. This is a great entry and I wish you all the best for getting that hot bod back soon!
And then we want PICS!!!

Hope you had a lovely holiday with your family
(((hug)))

Good for you! I'm so proud of you and the effort you are making to be more healthy. I've done the same thing myself. I chronicled it in my port....I know this is going to sound like a shameless plug, but it's not intended to be...It's merely a "I've been there too, bro" and a "hang in there, I believe in you" statement.

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be well,
Curls