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Yoyo Brett Favre and his re-re-return to football...now last shot at glory corrupted? |
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Now an Archive: (Let's see how the Mississippi scandal plays out before I can properly comment. not lookin' good, Brett.) This blog chronicles the ups and downs since his tearful departure from Green Bay in early 2007 to his brief flirtation with the Jets to another renaissance in the land of 10,000 lakes. Little did I know this rollercoaster ride would have this many ups, downs and turns. And then there were the accusations of a bounty on Favre in that NFC Championship game against the Saints. This blog is mostly an archive but will be updated from time to time. There's no chance he'll come out of retirement now? Favre is still the NFL's version of Elvis. It's his 20th and likely final NFL season. Does the long trail end in Minnesota after one remarkable season? We wait again to see if Brett Favre is 'all in' for another Super Bowl run. Along the way, he still knows how to make headlines. Reread and recall the events leading up til now. It's on again...it's off again...now it's on with one last Super Bowl push in 2009-10 Stay tuned as the title of this blog changes with the mind of Brett Favre.}/hide} Move forward? How about trudge forward, with the indignity that clasps about your indifferent ankles. My old lead in...I had many purposes for this recent blog, but now it is devoted to the Brett Favre retirement saga and all the bull that Ted Thompson can fling at the wall to see what sticks. Clearly, we've moved away from that since the Packers were bounced in the first round of the playoffs. They got schooled by the master Favre who lead the Vikings to the NFC North division title. Putting up the best stats of his careers, people keep waiting for him to run out of gas. As of this writing, he's heading into New Orleans. Now, on to my bloggin' until this thing is done. Who's the yo-yo (Favre) and who's the string (Packers)? And who is yanking my chain (?!) I grew up in Upper Michigan and followed teams like the Green Bay Packers and Milwaukee Bucks and Brewers, because of the geography and what little sports programming the rabbit ears could pick up. But when I became a reader, sports took on all kinds of dimensions as I became a huge fan of Johnny Bench and the Cincinnati Reds or that college phenom 'Pistol' Pete Maravich. I followed the Packers since their mediocrity in the post-Lombardi days before another legend was born with the Mississippi mudslinger Brett Favre. I unwittingly started blogging about him in the wake of his retirement and little did I know I would still be writing about him now. I take aim at sports with a naive perspective, hopeful that the icons can still inspire little ones to follow the glory and dreams of tomorrow. I'd like to separate the intense media focus and remove the cynicism while avoiding the maudlin over-hype to see what's real and appreciable about players and sports today. I don't know what I just said...  but moving on...
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| A smattering of fans lined up outside the fence at Austin Straubel Field in Green Bay last night hoping to get a glimpse, maybe the last, of their golden boy, as the setting sun obliterated my vision of small planes that taxied in and out of a private adjacent area. The onlookers were waiting on a twin-engine Cessna that was supposed to bring Brett Favre back to Green Bay. It would have been a small welcoming, though anywhere from five to six satellite trucks with reporters and photographers doubled the number of those anticipating a return that would not be. Everyone from ESPN to profootballtalk.com to local stations were saying a flight out of Hattiesburg was scheduled to arrive in Green Bay. First, at 6:46 p.m. and then delayed until after 8:00 p.m. before it never showed. The sun was no longer an obstacle while darkness permeated the air and my hopes of getting some video, a few words for my blog. Returning to my truck in the long term parking lot, I tuned in ESPN radio and the first news at 9:00 p.m. was Favre was giving serious consideration to this $20 million dollar retirement package, and my heart about slipped to the pit of my stomach. Is this what we waited for? If he takes that bribe never to play again, what a sour taste that will leave in many mouths. Shame the Packers for trying to sweep a legend under the rug. But to take that steaming steak right off the table when you're hungry for another shot to play, for another title contention, why would you? Mr. Favre, is this what you came out of retirement for, to be oustered off center stage again, behind the curtains, to count your gold in the shadows while the rest of us starve now for another season, another miracle year of hope and joy to watch you cavort on the gridiron and show the world that age ain't nuthin' but a number? How can we have any hope now? It's all dashed, it's all gone if you leave like this. Now, we don't really know what this compensation package is. I hear that it would mean you could not play for anyone this season, and since the Packers don't want you, who's left? Rumors start to surface that Thompson would consider trading you to a division rival, but then the Bears stupidly say they're not interested. Are the choices to play again that bleak? To me, you are the guy that flies by the seat of his pants, makes whimiscal decisions at times that can please or disappoint. Don't let this buyout be a defining moment. Grab a helmet and head to New York, Tampa Bay, or Minnesota, if it's true. Draw up those plays in the sand this season if you have to. You always seem to find a way to win, to make it work out. And if not, we have fun watching. Show the Packers what they're missing out on. It's implied you don't need the money. You got the itch. Get a football and let's scratch 'til your skin rubs right off. Let's see whats left in that tank. Just don't leave us standing here, retire again when hopes seem so high, when you finally have the upper hand on the Packers. You are close to getting what you want. Make Goodell reinstate you and report to camp. Force the Packers to send you to the team of your choice or force them to reconsider, because they really are idiots for moving forward without you. Don't sign on the dotted line. Standing at the gates, eyes aimed at heaven, just a fan who can do nothing but wait. I made further comments on this subject at profootballtalk.com (an excellent source for football news and gossip) A link followed by what I wrote: http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/31/favre-considering-money-for-nothing-de... When it looks like he's broken Thompson, who now apparently would consider sending Favre to a division rival, this buyout becomes a real possibility? I'm wondering if the Packers did more than just say we'll give $20 mil to shut up and go away. Do they have a smoking pistol of some kind in this high stakes showdown? What do they have on Favre to make that itch go away? Murphy must have some really rough nails. Favre wasn't holding out for money. Something will smell like rotten cheese in the state of Wisconsin, if it goes down like this. My vigil at Austin Straubel last night and response to the latest news: http://www.writing.com/main/books/entry_id/599634/ You know, if he doesn't like his options, I think the class thing to do would be to walk away from the Packers and the hush money, because it would be a double hit on Packer/Favre fans if he takes that slice of cheese home with him. |
| An unproductive meeting in Hattiesburg, Miss. seems to sum up a wasted trip by Packers CEO Mark Murphy. And if the report in the Milwaukee Journel Sentinel is true, they've stooped very low to keep Favre retired. This story is here: http://blogs.jsonline.com/packers/archive/2008/07/30/report-packers-offer-favre-... What perplexes is why spend that kind of money to keep him retired? $20 million dollars was offered to keep the legend on his tractor instead of in another uniform? Methinks, as a business decision, there's a lot behind this debacle that fans don't understand. Pundits might be getting closer to a money issue here. What is the retired Favre worth to the Packers then, if $20 million is supposed to buy his silence? Favre obviously doesn't care about that. To me, that offer and subsequent meeting seems like another insult and more fuel for the fire to return as a player. Expect Favre on that next flight to Green Bay. I'll be checking depatures from Hattiesburg. Boy, would I love to free myself up to be at the airport when that private jet lands. One problem. Goodell is still sitting on that paperwork. And, if he sits on it any longer, I wonder what will hatch next. There's no reason he couldn't have reinstated him by now while the two sides hash this out. Favre has the right to be on the active roster now. Aaron Rodgers is getting his reps and getting more time in camp to prepare, another excuse the Packers will use to say Favre will not be ready in time to reclaim his starting job...as they use their 'avoid the media circus' ploy. These delay tactics and the commissioners involvement seem more conspiratorial than helpful and I don't think this is about giving the two sides time to come to a resolution. Favre is sticking to his guns. He wants to play. They've already said he was welcome, and then Favre was told they needed more time, and now they're bribing him to stay away from Green Bay? In some respects, this is like extortion. And we all have to suffer through PR whispers that Favre is being divisive and selfish when it becomes more and more apparent that Ted Thompson and company have steered Favre down this road over time, hoping he'd eventually retire. But, he never gave up. I think this finally shows he has the resolve to play. All it ever took is a team and management that didn't play head games with him, because they lied and manipulated all along to phase him out of the organization. This is classless and unworthy of an organization in a proud community that uniquely supports its team. I really hope when the dust settles, everyone can see what has been going on here. They've tried to make Favre look like the bad guy, dupe fans into being pro-Packer and anti-star athlete, forgetting what he has accomplished, how he perservered, and what he gave to the game. And what he could still give, if they weren't so adament about snuffing out his light before the great athlete is certain he has no more to give. Start saving your rotten eggs and tomatoes Packer fans. Retribution is coming. By the way, my comment at the Journal Sentinel about this story is as follows: Alright, a new precedent in negotiating that can be added to the next collective bargaining agreement. Players who unretire while still under contract and threaten to reinstate then show up for training camp can earn a hefty compensation package to keep their butt planted firmly on their expensive couch cushions. Throw in a lap dog to seal the deal, while you're at it Murphy! So, this is good business sense? There must be revenue the Packers will lose on number four merchandising rights if he goes and plays somewhere else, even retires as the member of another team? Hmm? I would really like to know if this business decision to keep Favre retired is tied to the team's future revenue potential, i.e. selling jerseys, etc. What rights do they keep if he stays retired? Very curious proposal. Sort of a bribe with a little extorition on the side, you think? Brian Keith Compton Green Bay |
| Seems there's nothing to report...until Brett Favre gets on his cell or starts texting Chris Mortenson...but nothing was said to reporters when the two sides left agent Bus Cook's office in Hattiesburg, Miss. today. Pretty much all Favre said to reporters gathered in the 90-degree weather was "Why don't y'all just get in the shade." http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080730/NEWS01/80... So, Friday then, Brett? See you in Green Bay, I hope. |
| My reaction to an article written in the Hattiesburg American talking about Favre running late for his meeting with Mark Murphy today. First the article: http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080730/NEWS01/80... My reaction: Favre was preparing to fly to Green Bay. Why did Murphy have to hop the quickest flight out to meet with Favre anyway? Seems the Packers are going way out of their way, almost like physically repressing him from leaving Mississippi. These actions speak loud to me. I understand the foot dragging by the Packers if they are trying to avoid a media circus, but why is Goodell sitting on the paperwork? He is helping the Packers buy time, and you can forget the insinuations that Favre got Goodell on his side as a mediator. The Packers want to make it look like Favre is getting favorable treatment. Again, the manipulation behind the scenes all favors the Packers. They got the heads up from Goodell and they had their ace in the hole waiting with Murphy. They act dumbfounded, but they've got a response for every move Favre makes. This is a big game of chicken, and they are going to lose in many different ways, tarnishing a storied franchise with this constant muddy debacle being hauled back and forth in front of the media and fans. The guy just wants to play. The Packers just want him to stay put. There is no real mediator here, so Favre is pushing the envelope to get back his right to play, and be in a situation like he was in last year, to be able to get to the playoffs and possibly a Super Bowl. He is entitled that much, no matter how bored people have become on his indecision about retirement. Many great atheletes have been cut much more slack than Favre in an attempted comeback. If anyone is being divisive it is Thompson and company by stonewalling, by not letting Favre compete for the job he held 16 years straight without every missing a beat. Seems Thompson had an agenda when he took over as GM. Phasing out Favre was his end game and he can admit defeat. for more...my comments at profootballtalk.com: http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/30/favre-murphy-conclude-meeting/ |
| Mark Murphy is flying to MIssissippi to save the day and end this thing once and for all. It's being reported in my local rag that folks behind the scenes know that the Packers CEO is meeting with Favre and his agent in Mississippi to persuade Favre to stay away from training camp in Green Bay... the story: http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080729/PKR01/80... Now, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell may have given the Packers a heads up and sat on the paperwork so the Packers could work over Favre one more time in hopes of winning this test of wills. Favre should have been on a flight to Titletown Tuesday, but he may have known that this one last crusade was coming to his doorstep. Funny to think that in late March, McCarthy and Thompson were ready to board a plane to persuade their bride not to run from the alter. Now, what kind of proposal can they offer, so they don't have to bail out of their second (and real intended) marriage to Aaron Rodgers? For the Packers to act this quickly lets me know that they aren't being reactionary on this, but prudent. They may have been the ones that lured the NFL commissioner into this, and have his aid in stonewalling Favre some more. Don't anyone think for a moment that Goodell is on the side of the players. This simply reveals the man will air on the side of management, the way he is expected to perform his job. So don't expect some great negotiator to step in. He's done his work, including mulling over some phony tampering charges that were also supposed to make Favre and the Minnesota Vikings blink. Favre likely knows what he's up against. He wants a release from the team...the only thing the Packers can offer at this point to keep him out of camp. This may be heading to a quick resolution. Don't expect a trade but a release with conditions. The Packers can't take him back at this point without getting a lot of egg on their faces. They can't have fans cat-calling after each Aaron Rodgers incompletion with Favre riding the bench. They can't have the man don his number four as a starter, because they will lose face with everyone from media to fans and ultimately their players. I feel Brett needs to hold out for one and only one thing, his unconditional release from the team so he can go play for the Vikings and haunt his old team that tried to bury a hatchet in the back of his helmet when he tried to come back from the dead. It's sad to think that it's come down to this. They could offer him his entire salary to stay at home, but it won't fly. The collective bargaining agreement doesn't allow that sort of thing. Pay only to play, trade or cut 'em. I've read that Favre can be traded once reinstated and he cannot block such a transaction. However, he doesn't have to report to a new team, as was the case with Jake Plummer a few years ago to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I don't think money is a factor in the Mississippi mudslinger's strategy. I think getting back his job or getting revenge are the only avenues intriguing enough to get Favre out of retirement. He wants to join Darren Sharper and Ryan Longwell inside their snug and cozy dome and exact a little justice for what ownership among NFL teams do to old dogs they don't want to hunt with anymore. |
| If what Chris Mortenson reports is true, Brett Favre will be in Packer's training camp on Wednesday. The necessary reinstatement paperwork was filed with the league today, according to ESPN's Mortenson. There is speculation Favre will not take the field when training resumes Wednesday morning, for those prying eyes hoping to see him show up. It's likely he'll take a physical at the team facilities, while GM Thompson buys more time to plan his next move. Fans might not see Favre until Friday, if Thompson can't work out a trade or some other scenario to avoid a media frenzy at Clark Hinkle Field, or anywhere else in Green Bay. Now, does Favre actually show up? He could get fined 15 grand a day if he doesn't. Thompson would gladly waive that fee, if it would prevent number four from suiting up. And then, what to do with him when he arrives. Practice with the second team? The end of the field that seldom gets attention like the kids table at Thanksgiving will be packed with fans and reporters, while McCarthy and company will try to get to work with the first team in the middle of the field. This could be a lopsided affair. Friday should be the target date, if Favre lays cleat to grass with his old crew. Now, does this ex-reporter jump in the fray and get a prime seat for this? I will watch in the coming days to see how this plays out. I might take my son and daughter with me tomorrow and try to get an eyeful of what goes on. I'm sure training camp will be abuzz, unlike the lackluster first day of training camp. Let the circus begin! |
| Training camp opened today at Clark Hinkle Field, and the most anticipated arrival is still a possibility with Brett Favre. I drove by his house this morning on my way to view the Packers first day in front of fans and discovered his garage wide open and two vehicles parked in front. Obviously, Favre's planning to visit, since the vehicles were likely owned by the people who clean and/or stock his fridge. I've seen the small truck and station wagon there before and know what this means. At training camp, onlookers were many. Camera crews were everywhere. Even a freelance satellite truck was in the lot, ready to offer their feeds for a price. But it was pretty quiet among the railbirds. Players were taking reps in shorts and unis and are supposed to put on their pads later. I'm watching Aaron Rodgers complete a pass to rookie Jordy Nelson and hear some fans shout encouragement. I wonder, is this the new golden boy would will replace Favre? Without headgear, everyone can soak up a vision of the team's future faces, get these unknowns some recognition, out from the shadows of a future hall of fame giant. Thompson might be crying uncle when this is all said and done. He's got an unhappy running back who won't report or sign an offer sheet in Ryan Grant. The media circus is intensifying with plans to address the media in the auditorium today to accomodate everyone. He's going to pay for sticking to his guns on this Aaron Rodgers or bust campaign. Favre wants to play and likely does not want to suit up as a Packer anymore either. He wants Thompson to concede the three-time MVP was unfairly dealt with and should have been entitled to take his time deciding on retirement and the right to play or compete for his job once it was clear what he wanted to do. So, the Packers might be trying to force Favre to stay retired, trying to buy time knowing the clock is running. But, Favre isn't going to let Thompson let time run out before he throws one more bomb. Or it could be just a slant route that gets the receiver in the end zone. Either way, Favre is there tomorrow and the Packers will be on the clock to make their next move. |
| The Packer's 'football decision' was a business decision. Why is the organization so adament about keeping the rights to number four, rather than see him play for another team? If Brett Favre moves on and has success in Minnesota or Chicago or anywhere else, the legacy that is lost tarnishes the Packers reputation. Favre could decide to retire with another team after Ted Thompson's failed manipulation to force the quarterback into a premature decision to hang up his cleats in March...two months after the end of the season...seven months before the start of 2008. The money trail is something that should be followed closely. Who has the most to lose here if Favre switches jerseys? I recall an ESPN morning show that had photoshop pictures of Favre in other teams jerseys. Why so early the interest to see what he looks like with another team? Merchandise is a huge part of the NFL profit system. I can only imagine how much Favre earned the team in 2007 as the largest jersey seller for Reebok among atheletes in all sports. How much more money would he be worth in 2008 with another team? The Packers had a big cash grab last year, but how about in retirement? I got to thinking about this and want to learn more, but I assume retiring as a Packer means the team can still earning money off number four for many years to come. So, I try to connect the dots. Thompson's plan has been from the beginning to phase out Favre. Wear him out. Put him through a meat grinder with bad teams, bad offensive line, leave him to struggle and hope it gets him into a career ending injury or to retire. Why did Favre waffle on retirement? Because he got the good cop/bad cop routine. One said we want you back (McCarthy) while the other implied you're not worth the money (Thompson). Remember Favre's bit in his retirement address..."I hope I was worth every penny." I think that was aimed at administration, who gave him the finger when he wanted to offer his input to make the team better. The encouragement from McCarthy with little help from Thompson, the sounds of Favre's indecision were somehow amplified in the media. Rumors circled that he is selfish and wants the world.The guy wants to win and has name recognition that can draw good athletes to the team to make it even better. Isn't that really a privilege to have a player in a position to help like that. It's part of the dynamic that Thompson could have taken advantage of, rather than shun. Who has the bigger ego now? He's been a pawn all along. Thompson probably got approval for the Favre phase out from key members within the organization at the outset. But there had to have been the stipulation that the rights to the man stay with the team. If he moved on, his value to the legacy of the Packers diminishes. It would have to be a money decision. No Favre, less money for an organization that was licking the lid of the NFL's trash cans before he came along. That don't have that same financial security if he retires as a member of another team. I happened to look up some information on my neighbor and former Packer receiver Bill Schroeder the other day. I inadvertantly discovered that he choose to retire as a Packer. You might imagine that he had hoped to make a comeback with the team, but there's something significant about retiring as a member of a specific team. It may be important to both parties in as far as future business arrangements may go. So, how does it affect the Packers if Favre moves on? Thompson had his end game strategy, he just didn't count on being trumped by number four just a few months after he lit up a cigar in celebration of Favre's tearful departure from the game. Now he's back, and the GM seems shaken. His plan backfired. I would like to learn more about how teams report profit and if it can be ascertained how much Favre alone impacts the financial well being of the organization. And, in a year without him, when the rights to sell his merchandise greatly diminish, how will the team fair? Can they take a hit to the fan base that supports Favre? There's no doubt many disgruntled fans and recognition that this whole thing has been handled badly. What if fair-weather Packer fans stop tuning in so they can get the reception of their Mississippi mudslinger's firings somewhere else? Packer earnings were down after the 2007 season. Thankfully, overhead was down, so profits increased (I think, I will check) by 1.5 million. So, a year from now, at the next shareholders meeting, what will the team report? And how will they be received then? It may depend on how the Favre fiasco plays out. Ted Thompson, you may very well be fearful of your job security, even as former NFL 'executive of the year' or whatever they dubbed ya. |
| Brett Favre would have reported and would have competed for his old job, according to an interview with ESPN's Chris Mortenson. And it's apparent the Packers are buying time, trying to avoid hauling the quarterback's locker back into the dressing room in time for Monday's training camp. Favre makes some good points but reveals he's forcing GM Ted Thompson to play his hand, referencing pressure he's getting from his agent, wife and others. I think he would be better off to exclude comments about outside pressure, even if it is just to say they think he's 'stupid' for letting the Packers and GM Ted Thompson talk him out of showing up for the start of training camp. The Mortenson story is here, and is encompassing in answering a lot of the questions nagging minds about Favre's thinking on getting himself reinstated into the NFL... http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3507141 |
| Brett Favre won't pilot the New York Jets, despite how it might make a fitting end to the quarterback's unique saga. Sports pundits can show how the Packers, Favre and Jets can benefit from a divorce and marriage for this wily veteran who has everyone guessing. Favre will likely string this out much longer, as it keeps his name and this drama in the headlines. He's making some very big waves and enjoying it all from the behind the scenes. I don't blame him. Favre needs to show he has the upper hand. But putting the Packers on notice whether he'll appear at training camps has GM Ted Thompson and company spinning their wheels. I'm not so certain the Jets are that interested anyway, since the rumored asking price (1st round draft pick) is too high for someone who may not be committed to playing any longer than one more year. While Thompson has his sleeves rolled up and head coach Mike McCarthy watches to see if his now number two quarterback arrives by Monday, Favre can put his feet up. Sure, he can file for reinstatement and show up for practice, but why bother. He doesn't need the paycheck and doesn't need reporters hounding him. He can sit back in the shadows and watch everyone else struggle. Scenarios with the Jets and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are just a ruse as he attempts to tire out the Packers with the Brett Favre watch. If things cool, he could make another headline splash to keep this thing going, to keep Packer nation vigilant. He may want to be devisive at this point, because his true desire to me is to don a Vikings uniform so he can haunt his old team. Why does he want to do this? Hasn't anyone whose ever been scorned by a former employer wanted a chance to get back, get even? Favre didn't have any bargaining power with Thompson, to keep or get lineman to protect him from career threatening injuries. He couldn't get Steve Mariucci an interview for the head coaching post, or persuade the GM to get a receiver like Randy Moss who could have put their team in the Super Bowl. And Thompson acted like he didn't want Favre's input and likely wanted the QB to know his input what not desired. So, it was difficult year-in and year-out for Favre to commit to playing another year. Thompson and McCarthy would try to persuade him not to retire, because they knew they had a better chance with him, that Favre was still money in the bank. But, when they wanted him out of the picture, they stopped showing up on his doorstep. They feigned interest in him after his retirement speech, because they wanted everyone to think they wanted him back when they actually didn't. No, unlike previous years when they would make him promises of what they would do to persuade him to keep playing, they started putting doubts in his head. For instance, McCarthy telling him what happened to Joe Montana late in his career, like it has any parallels. But, an obvious tactic to get him to retire a Packer, knowing full well that he might have a desire to jump ship because the Packers were jerking him around. Favre has no desire to be a Jet or a Buc, because that gives him just the smallest chance to prove they made the wrong choice when the messed with him. The Vikings, however, a division rival, presents him the greatest chance to strike back at Thompson and McCarthy. He knows defections of players like Sharper and Longwell to the North Division rival have gotten under some people's skin. But Favre defecting? That might cause mutiny on the Packer's ship of idiots. So, while the Packers scramble to keep NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and Packer nation happy, to get a deal that will keep this distraction out of the headlines so they can 'move forward' like the lemmings they are, Favre can study Vikings highlight films and prepare for his ultimate comeback. Stay tuned. I'm sure there is more to come in the who blinks first war that Thompson started but won't be able to finish. |
| Gathering from the news reports of events at today's Packers shareholders meeting at Lambeau Field, some chilly receptions were given to team officials. Different news outlets are spinning this thing both ways, some playing down the reports of disgruntled shareholders. Watching video of the reception the first speaker and Packer CEO Mark Murphy got was the ugliest with a lot of booing during his remarks. But what some news outlets focus on is anywhere from a more patient crowd to one that gave GM Ted Thompson a standing ovation and was even more kind to head coach Mike McCarthy. Guaging fan reaction and trying to understand the mentality of the crowd that was there, I came to one conclusion. The early booing caught many by surprise. It's likely team officials tried to detract a negative atmosphere beforehand. Shareholders who were of a more positive nature may have decided to stand up and give Thompson a warmer reception after what happened with Murphy, because they were clearly masking some of the noise unhappy fans were making. I'd say Thompson got a somewhat favorable reception, but there's no doubt in my mind it would have been a lot worse if he were the first speaker. It seems supporters of the organization and those who feel compelled to bring a more positive atmosphere to the table stepped up to help deflect the displeasure many attempted to demonstrated. Looks like they rallied in the stadium atrium and were passing out petitions for Favre's return. I think this story will be spun both ways. Though, the court of public opinion, where more hardened sports fans are concerned, seem to come out against Favre as someone who has put himself ahead of team. I don't understand how it got to be about that when he's requested separation from the team because they won't let him back or that he has to compete for a job he's rightfully entitled. So, I'll keep watching this, but I would say score one for disgrunteld fans, regardless of what you hear people spin about that shareholders meeting. I figured these people would roll over in the dirt and scratch their bellies under the sun, buy many didn't. It looks like many wanted to be heard, and many wanted to show their displeasure. I think where they come out might be just the way the organization has handled the whole thing. That they should have been prepared should Favre say he wanted to play again and to not stonewall or file tampering charges and throwing dirt after dirtball. Judging from comments from people like Murphy and Thompson, they are steadfast with moving forward without Favre and aren't the least bit contrite. This may be over. I don't think Favre is going anywhere but staying retired at this point. I don't think he likes his options, since he can't return to the team as the starting QB. I wouldn't rule out his entrance should an organization lose a starter and should want to call on Favre as a replacement. That is yet to be seen, but many say the pressure will be on the Packers if the injury prone Rodgers become sidelined. More later, I'm sure. |
| One of the sticking points in this feud between Packers GM Ted Thompson and quarterback Brett Favre seems the inability to sign former free agent wide receiver Randy Moss. Considering what Favre told Greta Van Susteren at Fox News last week, he had Moss in the fold and all Thompson had to do was tender an offer that would have been a bargain given the receiver's ability to perform. Favre iterated Thompson's concern that Moss didn't look good on game film, he was taking plays off. Considering Moss was hated as a rival Minnesota Viking, it would take some adjustment to see him in green and gold. But there is more about this controversial receiver that maybe concerned Thompson and his vision for the team, whatever that vision may be, but it's easy to suspect. Thompson could take the salary hit, could take some of Favre's salary to pay Moss and see little of the beloved 'cap' figure diminish, which essentially isn't being used anyway since the GM bulids through the draft. Moss isn't the type to be a team leader or motivator. He seems to lack the values that the organization might be trying to instill. But Favre said it could be a one-year deal, just to see. That's about what Moss ended up with in New England before taking his team to the Super Bowl and an undefeated season while catching a record number of touchdown passes. Favre can point to all that now and say Thompson missed the boat. I don't think Thompson cares about how much Moss elevated the Patroits to a record setting season. He cares about that vision he has for the team, even if it should be flawed. Thompson has his youth movement. His shut up and play mentality would be in jeopardy. I think he really thinks with McCarthy as coach, players will just fall in line and get with the program. And Favre, being the little troublemaker that he is was poisoning Thompson's water. Sure Favre has an obligation to get with the program and see it through and he signed on for most of it. Problem is, he is the star and a central component to the team, and as the catalyst wanted to help out using his connections to get the team to that next level, the Super Bowl. Having Moss come through town could have gotten the team there, too. The players, even his receivers, all seem to still love Favre even though they knew he was lobbying for someone who could replace them, cut into their playing time or diminish their own goals and shot at glory or a bigger pay day. I think everyone knows Favre would attempt to do this to give their squad a shot at the ultimate championship. No, it was Thompson who is letting the gear out slowly on this vehicle he is building, restoring, trying to return to former glory. But, in sating his own vision without incorporating the input of others, he's stalled his own ride. It's suspect now whether he'll have everyone on board after the Favre fiasco that continues to unfold. Thompson needs to loosen up on the reigns and embrace Favre while still holding true to his core philosophies. He's tarnished the Packer legacy and could have avoided this as far back as 2005 when he took over by doing a better job of communicating with Favre and his vision for the organization. I think 'stoic' is an apt depiction of the man, because he is not forthcoming. Stonewalling the greatest Packer of all-time and disappointing fans and those concerned will all be parts of what Thompson will be forever remembered for, unless, and just maybe, if he can take this team to another Super Bowl win. Most will say, don't count on it, especially if Aaron Rodgers or any other quarterback should navigate the Packers with the maps Thompson has designed for this team. Thompson needs to make amends, because the burden to win is much greater for the Packers now. |
| An interesting thread in a Packer for, not officially endorsed by the team, so watch out Ted Thompson lovers...(Does that man qualify to have a fan club?) http://members4.boardhost.com/PackerReview/msg/1216399003.html |
| You can let the Packers and Brett know your desire for his return to the green and gold by going to this website... http://savebrett.net/ I left a comment there, too. |
| What I've been hearing for years about what is unique and refreshing about the Green Bay Packers organization is that it is owned by shareholders. What a privilege and opportunity it will be then when their meeting convenes in the coming week in the midst of this Brett Favre debacle? How badly will head coach Mike McCarthy, General Manager Ted Thompson and Packer's CEO Mark Murphy try to avoid shareholder speculation and questioning on the baffling issue of whether the embittered quarterback should be allowed to return from retirement and play another season in the NFL. My first inkling is that these people don't have a clue. They will come for the free dinner and drinks and yuck it up. But then when I heard people like former U.S. Senate leader Newt Gingrich and the now infamous Brett Favre interviewer Greta Van Susteren are shareholders, I ask 'who initiates a filibuster here?' Really, let's barbeque Packer management and not some pig Thompson would love to dress in a number four jersey. Let's get down to the business of it and show everyone what a class organization Green Bay has with this National Football League franchise. It's time to bury the hatchet, put all the rumors to rest, and show the world there is a remedy to a Tar Baby situation that keeps getting stickier by the jab. I doubt anything will come of it. Murphy, Thompson and McCarthy are busy spinning and will be trying to keep shareholders in their seats. But Newt Gingrich? He's come out on Brett Favre's side. We know where Appleton, Wisconsin native Susteren stands, since Deanna Favre arranged her husband's interview with the alleged friend. My guess...shareholders will likely stay out of the fray, especially in front of the media. But there's a ray of hope that some good could come out of the annual meeting on July 24th, right? I will have to shake my head and wonder if this matter is not resolved to the satisfaction of the two parties involved, let alone Packer supporters. It's unfortunate that what has developed in recent weeks has divided a team, fans, and community. Could it also divide a shareholder meeting? I will stay tuned. Brian Keith Compton lives in Green Bay and writes for...no one, but himself |
| Forget what I say, this is dead on. You have to admit that this situation is mishandled and Favre is holding the team hostage because he doesn't have a 'do over' button to push... http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/8351984/Hey-Ted,-I'm-here-to-help# |
| The Green Bay Packers made a bold move filing tampering charges this week against the Minnesota Vikings, suggesting one of their coaches talked to Brett Favre about playing for their team. This type of posturing further suggests to me the Packers wanted Favre to retire and to stay retired by intimidating other teams who may be trying to lure Favre their way, or to prevent the quarterback from shopping himself around. As I understand the way I hear it done in some sports organizations, a team will grant a player and/or agent to seek out teams who would be interested in a trade. Why are the Packers stonewalling Favre for any other reason than to snuff out his career, and why? The talk about them trying to protect his legacy is now a load a bull, especially if they say he is welcome to come back as Aaron Rodgers backup. No, this is no way to treat a legend and the Packers are made some bold moves to counter Favre's efforts to get his unconditional release from the team. I can understand why Ted Thompson and company don't want Favre in a Vikings jersey. It's because the Packers will wind up only looking up at their North Division rival in the 2008 standings. This is just like watching an ugly firing. I've been through something similar. You get the feeling the employer is moving in another direction. You make attempts to secure your job, make sacrifices. When you see that isn't going to work, or the boss has his mind made up, you feel like you're playing a lonely game of Survivor with weak alliances. Getting coerced into leaving your job is tough. You just want to take that door and leave because they took the fun out of it, or made you fear for your job security or being diminished by every changing policies. It's an unfair advantage that a boss has over an employee and they fully have the right to do it. But in Favre's case, it's more than unethical because the team is airing dirty laundry in the media, forcing Favre to retaliate in the same way because he feels he has no other recourse. Favre doesn't get to hold many cards because the league allows a team to protect a player under contract, even if he's retired. So when Favre says they manipulated him into an early decision and are now trying to keep him from playing again, it's no lie. And when they say they are trying to preserve a legend, that folks is the real lie. You'll hear all kinds of misguided pundits try to point out this or that, but Favre was genuine in his retirement annoucement. If he had a notion he had to retire so he could go play somewhere else, it was only an inkling. The things the Packers have said or done pushed him over the edge. Do you want to be told you are not valued as an employee any more and you are not welcome back? Doesn't that make you want to prove your worth? And who is going to tell Favre he's not worthy of playing after the kind of career he's had and what he proved last season? No Thompson and McCarthy are guilty. They are trying to hide what's on their hands. People need to wise up and see the parallels, because we all get treated like this in real life. Brett Favre is not immune to the same kind of cruel practices of the work place. |
| When I turn on my TV set, I want to be entertained. Favre has done that. I don't buy what Thompson and the Packers are selling. And there might be half truths on both sides. But, I don't feel Favre should be treated this way. Not because of what it will do to him, but what it will do to us, the fans and this city. Aren't the Packers doing a great disservice to the rest of us by letting all this dirty laundry get aired in the media? All the speculation and innuedo that's left out there leaves a sour taste in my mouth. And if come September, I turn on that set and have to watch someone else play at that position when a future hall of famer was pushed out of the picture, I don't know how my heart can be in it. I don't care if it's a business and I don't care about the winning. We'd do fine with Favre at the helm and he'll make us smile doing what he does so well. He was cajoled into early retirement. Thompson has been spinning this thing and he's made a mess of it. Time to clean it up and spare what legacy he, the GM, may have left. Don't you think he owes it to the fans? They are the real victims here. |
| I keep hearing who gives us the best chance to win. I ask, who would you prefer to watch play? It's Brett Favre. Who will keep people watching, keep talking around the water cooler on Monday? Who sold/sells the most jerseys and keeps the city in media headlines? And then, who gives the Packers the best hope of another Super Bowl title? Now if you don't want him back Ted, do the right thing. Set him free or embrace him. Don't drag the rest of us through it and claim you're protecting HIS legacy. |
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